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July platforms
Corn Popper (69582), Jul 16, 2012
User Avataradded new platforms Videopac+ G7400, Atom, Thomson TO 7, Sinclair QL
Re: July platforms
havoc of smeg (10840), Jul 16, 2012
User AvatarAnd cue new platform requests...
Re: July platforms
Kabushi (104489), Jul 16, 2012
User AvatarAnyone know how the compatibility is between different Thompson computers? I've seen that MO and TO series are not compatible but what about TO 7/8/9?
Re: July platforms
Trypticon (4722), Jul 16, 2012
Kabushi Wrote:
Anyone know how the compatibility is between different Thompson computers? I've seen that MO and TO series are not compatible but what about TO 7/8/9?



They're supposed to be backwards compatible in the chronical order - (confusingly that would make the TO 8 the most compatible). Game media seems to contain often more than one version though, for MO and TO.
(Edited by Kabushi (104489), Jul 16, 2012)
Re: July platforms
Kabushi (104489), Jul 16, 2012
User AvatarIt's a bit confusing really. I was reading about it on Old-Computers.com and it seems that MO 5 is not compatible with TO 7, yet the MO 6 is compatible with both MO 5 and all TO computers. Which makes me think that it might be best to treat the whole family as one platform in the same way we do with Atari 8-bit.
Re: July platforms
Trypticon (4722), Jul 16, 2012
Kabushi Wrote:
It's a bit confusing really. I was reading about it on Old-Computers.com and it seems that MO 5 is not compatible with TO 7, yet the MO 6 is compatible with both MO 5 and all TO computers. Which makes me think that it might be best to treat the whole family as one platform in the same way we do with Atari 8-bit.



I think that information at Old-Computers might be wrong or at least somewhat misleading. I've read emulator documentation which stated that the MO6 should be able to recognize TO floppies, but no carts or tapes, and in any case no TO programm is supposed to run (unless it's in pure basic). An initial test with a cartridge on two different emulators confirms this.
Re: July platforms
Kabushi (104489), Jul 17, 2012
User AvatarOk, then I suppose the best way to handle this is as two platforms, one for TO and one for MO?
(Edited by Trypticon (4722), Jul 17, 2012)
Re: July platforms
Trypticon (4722), Jul 17, 2012
From the way software is organized and labeled on the internet, that doesn't seem to be a bad approach. MO family seems easy enough, TO has the mentioned confusing order: TO7, TO7/70, TO9, TO8, TO9+ (apparently, more in common with TO8 than TO9).

Backwards compatibility may possibily not work 100% for both MO and TO, but this isn't unusual for other systems as well. Could probably also be covered by notes, unless the Atari 8bit approach is choosen.
Re: July platforms
Trypticon (4722), Jul 16, 2012
Corn Popper Wrote:
added new platforms Videopac+ G7400, Atom, Thomson TO 7, Sinclair QL



Just to clarify, the Thomson platform is only this one model (TO7) for now?
Re: July platforms
Corn Popper (69582), Jul 16, 2012
User Avataryes for now
Re: July platforms
Corn Popper (69582), Jul 25, 2012
User AvatarOK, changed to Thompson TO now
(Edited by Rola (5794), Jul 26, 2012)
Re: July platforms
Rola (5794), Jul 26, 2012
User AvatarIf anyone's willing to work on Thomson, I've added an important website link on the Multimedia Mike's Missing Games List, where you can find a lot of info on titles released for that computer... I have few package photos even they don't have - and would be glad to share it with someone (sadly I don't speak French, so I'm unable to research most of Thomson games).
Re: July platforms
jean-louis (13476), Sep 19, 2012
Rola Wrote:
If anyone's willing to work on Thomson, I've added an important website link on the Multimedia Mike's Missing Games List, where you can find a lot of info on titles released for that computer... I have few package photos even they don't have - and would be glad to share it with someone (sadly I don't speak French, so I'm unable to research most of Thomson games).



As I said it before (PM) maybe I can help for Thomson games. Just ask me.
Re: July platforms
chirinea (31388), Jul 16, 2012
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Corn Popper Wrote:
added new platforms Videopac+ G7400

Did I say "I love you" today already, Rob?
(Edited by Rola (5794), Jul 16, 2012)
Re: July platforms
Rola (5794), Jul 16, 2012
User AvatarThank you for your work! Updating Wikipedia now. Contributors: see new reference links on the Multimedia Mike's Missing Games List.

MobyGames is indeed educational. I'd have never discovered the Floppy ROM, a 33 1⁄3 RPM flexi disc record! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_standard#Floppy_ROM
Re: July platforms
Rola (5794), Jul 17, 2012
User AvatarThere's a database bug with Acorn Atom: doesn't accept games before 1983, while the launch date was 1980.
Re: July platforms
Kabushi (104489), Jul 17, 2012
User AvatarIt's been fixed.
another milestone
Rola (5794), Sep 17, 2012
User AvatarQuietly we've passed another milestone: half a million screenshots!
(Edited by Sciere Bronze Star Contributing Member (205993), Nov 12, 2012)
Re: July platforms
Claude Marine, Nov 12, 2012
spam
(Edited by Rola (5794), Nov 13, 2012)
found 2 more exotic platforms
Rola (5794), Nov 13, 2012
User AvatarFor those researchers and scholars out there (anybody listens?), I'm just mentioning for the record that I found games list for another two missing old computers:
  • Mattel Aquarius
  • Texas Instruments Professional Computer (not even Wikipedia has this one!)
    Wonder if they're already listed on the secret approvers' forum? Never heard them being mentioned here. Not a high priority, as they had very small game library due to their market failure. Yet in contrast to those wacky consoles (I'm talking to you, Casio Loopy) we can add a couple titles right away (Infocom adventures anyone?).

    Reference available in my google Drive document.
  • (Edited by Trypticon (4722), Nov 14, 2012)
    Re: found 2 more exotic platforms
    Trypticon (4722), Nov 14, 2012
    The TI Professional is one of several obscure platforms running DOS and/or CPM that Infocom supported. In fact, cover artwork of them has already been submitted in the past, check this out:

    http://www.mobygames.com/game/zork-the-great-underground-empire/cover-art/gameCoverId,231612/

    http://www.mobygames.com/game/enchanter/cover-art/gameCoverId,2370/
    (Edited by Rola (5794), Nov 14, 2012)
    Re: found 2 more exotic platforms
    Rola (5794), Nov 14, 2012
    User AvatarThat's unexpected. I read that TI Pro wasn't IBM PC-compatible: while it used DOS it was modified one, same goes to disk format? Why Infocom would use separate order code for this machine: TI1 ? (you can see the codes on floppy's sticker)

    http://pdd.if-legends.org/infocom/fact-sheet.txt
    I don't know how to interpret that either. The TI Prof. is listed separately in Infocom price lists, whereas the other DOS machines listed on that front cover like the Wang or Sanyo machines are not.
    (Edited by Rola (5794), Nov 14, 2012)
    DEC Rainbow
    Rola (5794), Nov 14, 2012
    User AvatarA mistake on Infocom's part? To include TI Pro with IBM compatibles?

    See other cover: http://www.mobygames.com/game/zork-the-great-underground-empire/cover-art/gameCoverId,28778/

    Check the part that lists other systems: "Use the IBM PC version for your Compaq and the MS-DOS 2.0 version for your Wang, Mindset, Data General System 10, GRiD and many others", while the TI Professional & DEC Rainbow are mentioned separately from these.




    Now, that second cover you found probably shouldn't be filed under DOS?

    I'm not familiar with DEC Rainbow, however it had separate order code at Infocom - check that listing I linked in previous post and our cover scan saying DE2 (also: RX50 disk), not IB2.

    RX50 disk drives used specific 5.25" SSQD diskette format, I'm not sure if 1980s IBMs could read it? Today we can do it: http://home.claranet.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/rx50.html




    Please note how this Infocom history text file gives separate dates for introduction of their interpreter to IBM PC, TI Professional, DEC Rainbow, MS-DOS.
    This also means something.
    (Edited by Trypticon (4722), Nov 14, 2012)
    Re: DEC Rainbow
    Trypticon (4722), Nov 14, 2012
    This problem of platforms sharing an OS and somewhat similar hardware resulting in possible crossover compatibility was probably discussed before. I'm guessing this requires input of actual (former or current) users of the hardware to sort out, few machines are actually emulated.

    In case of the Rainbow, from what I remember reading - among other differences the Rainbow's graphic adapter (which was apparently an add-on - makes the system's name quite misleading) doesn't correspond to a IBM standard, so even if all the commercial releases were cross-compatible pure Text based games that rely on the OS, homebrew making use of graphics wouldn't fit into the DOS category as it currently is.
    70 000 game entries
    Rola (5794), Nov 16, 2012
    User AvatarShouldn't we celebrate 70 000 game entries going online?
    Re: 70 000 game entries
    Kabushi (104489), Nov 16, 2012
    User Avatar70.000 platforms, not game entries. We have soon reached 40.000 unique games though.
    Re: 70 000 game entries
    Klaster_1 (57855), Nov 16, 2012
    User AvatarJust submit a news entry, why not? I personally miss those pieces about MG-related stuff, like X hit Y points, platform F is almost done, etc. It makes community more lively and encourages to contribute.
    (Edited by Rola (5794), Nov 16, 2012)
    Re: 70 000 game ports
    Rola (5794), Nov 16, 2012
    User AvatarYou're right, I wasn't sure how to phrase it. "Platform" means software/hardware system allowing for play. I use "port" most often, but that's not too precise either (some games are re-made from scratch for another system, other are indeed just ported). I had to write an explanation on Wikipedia for this issue.

    Few months ago (when we got monthly updates) I wanted to propose a challenge to everybody to catch up with UVL in numbers alone (they have 80 000 ports) by the end of 2013.

    News approval is so delayed I no longer post these.
    Re: 70 000 game ports
    Giu's Brain (468), Nov 16, 2012
    User AvatarWe've had the same game featured for over a month and a half, so I'm not surprised the news is no different.
    (Edited by Rola (5794), Nov 21, 2012)
    Wii U ?
    Rola (5794), Nov 21, 2012
    User AvatarWe've got a new platform (Wii U console) and nobody mentions it?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U#Launch_games

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games
    Re: Wii U ?
    Corn Popper (69582), Nov 21, 2012
    User Avatarnah, was going to mention it next week
    Re: Wii U ?
    Klaster_1 (57855), Nov 27, 2012
    User AvatarDon't want to create new thread, so will ask here: how to distinguish Wii U video when platform isn't specified? It has same buttons as 360 and no native achievement system, so you can't use that for certain identification. The only thing I saw helpful was button layout, like on SNES, but that isn't enough.
    Re: Wii U ?
    CrankyStorming (2317), Nov 28, 2012
    User AvatarI assume the Wii U footage will feature all white or black buttons as opposed to multi-coloured.

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