What the heck

Neat, isn't it? The idea of operating systems filed in a videogame documentation project. Whatever implications that might have it's rather pleasing as an oddity.

The rationale was: we don't document individual programs, just distributions of programs. Solitaire and Minesweeper have never been available independently of their OSes, so thoses OSes are being considered shovelware compilations.

This bodes well for my hopes to submit emacs. Also I suppose I'll have to refigure my GeoSafari entry into an MS BOB entry.

Oh yeah, reminds me, still got that PLUS! game pack thingy to add.

-edit - submitted :)

I remember this being discussed a while back, but I didn't think it would actually come to this.

No wonder everything sits in the queues for months on end, all the approvers are too busy playing Windows. :)

Now that they are in the database, let's talk semantics.

Shouldn't the full title be something like "Microsoft Windows XP"

Or perhaps even "Microsoft Windows XP Professional"

And should I scan my CD?

If we must, then add the Microsoft.

But I would not split this up into Home Edition, Professional Edition or those crap N or KN versions. At least as long as the games are the same. Or do you really want to end with e.g. "Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition"? :P

However, with Vista, are there actually more games in the Ultimate Edition then in the other editions? (Vista has a lot more games then XP)

I don't know about Vista. I'm still clinging to XP (And I always slipstream the games out of it anyway :).

You're right about that if the games are the same there shouldn't be a seperate entry of course. And I can imagine that server editions maybe don't have games at all?

But things like Home and Premium might be added as alternative titles, I guess. If someone really cares :)

At least until Server 2003 (don't know about the 2008), the games were still there. After all, when the admin does some maintenance at the server, he should be able to play games. Or not? :P

I'm currently installing Windows 7 Home Basic in a virtual machine, so I will see shortly if there are less games.

Then "formatting" and re-installing the Ultimate Edition, and the ~30 MUI's... good way to get all those game AKA's. =)

I'm sure he'd rather install Call of Duty or something ¬.¬

=)

Home Basic has the usual suspects (FreeCell, Hearts, Minesweeper, Solitaire, Spider Solitaire) and Purple Place.

Home Premium and beyond have: Chess Titans, FreeCell, Hearts, Internet Backgammon, Internet Checkers, Internet Spades, Mahjong Titans, Minesweeper, Purple Place, Solitaire and Spider Solitaire.

So they should be split into two entries. Heh. :p

What do you think about adding MS-DOS 5.0 because of Nibbles? :P =)

I've never played "Nibbles"... Boy that sounded dirty.

Hell I never even used DOS 5.0. I started my PC experiences with Windows 3.1! (Though I do have a copy of DOS 5 somewhere at home.)

I said Nibbles, not Nipples. =)

Nibbles was released with MS-DOS 5 and later (up until 6.22) and required QBasic to run (which shipped with those MS-DOS versions too).

By the way, Windows 3.x was an OS extension. It required a separate DOS (MS-DOS/DR-DOS) installation present. Unlike Windows 9x/ME, Windows 3.x did not ship with an own DOS. So you must have used DOS. :P

No, I never used DOS, we weren't allowed near the computers until they booted into Windows 3.1 (streamed off the network servers... those stupid systems didn't even HAVE hard drives built in!)

Including MS-DOS 5.0 on account of Nibbles and Gorillas would be consistent with this strange new direction.

I also was wondering about the SMS maze game. The new approach feels strange but not wrongheaded.

I've the Ultimate Edition and besides the mentioned game I also have "InkBall" listed. And in addition the Ultimate Edition gives you access to Hold 'em and Microsoft Tinker. The only two "useful" Windows Ultimate-Extras you can download...

Thanks, as I actually did a bit ASSuming here. ;)

(The game listing was actually made from Windows 7.)

Checked it out, Inkball is Home Premium and above. :)

Moved to the Approver forum for better overview and easier editing, while the research is ongoing.

That's Chinese, but I'm not sure if that's simplified or not. Ask Oleg.

Purble Place. :P

From an old thread - what comes with Vista Home Premium.

Yeah, already got that when creating the game entry. :-)

Er, does that mean I really have to submit the Sega Master System as a game entry?

Exactly :)

Err, because some games shipped with the console itself?

Exactly, and I mentioned that when you said you would add those OSs here. I even said I felt it was wrong because of that. Oh boy, here we are again opening the gates of hell...

You don't have to add the other two systems, though - Hang On / Safari Hunt and Hang On were released as standalone cards. You can probably swing it with new system release info only.

I can't select Vista as minimal OS for Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic - the newest available is XP SP2. :P

fixed

I can't get over the 'Windows XP for Windows' title, sounds kinda strange. Come to think of it, it's wrong too as Windows XP doesn't run on Windows, bit of an contradiction.

See it from the other perspective: if Windows can't be Windows, what else can ever be Windows? :P

Operating systems are NOT games! Come on, with that logic i should be able to add almost anything if there is even one "game" on cd/dvd etc.

No one said that operating systems are "games". ;-)

There are plenty of educational CD-ROMs that have been added on the virtue of one single "game" being included with the multimedia software. Going back further, Big Blue Disk compilations often ended up being a disk full of applications and utility software with maybe one or two games thrown in. Still we've dutifully documented them. This works much the same.

(This does provide grounds for us to enter in old issues of type-in BASIC magazines as game compilations, rather than just noting the magazine as the game's publisher and indicating which issue it was released in in the description.)

Think outside the box. :p

From an MG technical point of view, Microsoft Windows XP is a games compilation that happens to include an operating system. Emulator included: windows. :p

Mind you we document how games were released, first and foremost. Not just the game content.