(Edited by BurningStickMan (17754), Apr 08, 2010)Entry leftovers
BurningStickMan (17754), Apr 08, 2010
Curious about this, so let's conduct a little mini poll. As a submitter (not necessarily as someone using the database for research), how do you feel when you spot information left incomplete in an entry, like rating info or tech specs.
Excited, because that's some easy points for me!
Annoyed, because now I have to add the info the original submitter didn't in the first place.
Always good to have as much infos as possible...
Be not to frustrated, if you find not so many easy points as you hope, take a look at the 2010 Top Contibutor sheet for Tech-Spec (incl. Ratings), there's an contributor out there, who gained more pts. in 3 months than ever before a contributor get in his whole career, except Xoleras, who has a few points more. And this 2010 contributor, has more then 2.000 of those items pending in his queue....
But, so or so, have fun and give us as much info as possible...
I rarely go over entries to find out what info is missing. But as an approver notice there are quite a few people who do (which is good!). I'm guessing they don't mind doing it. Because, well... else they wouldn't do it, right? I mean, it's not like we kill them if they don't.
Had to correct myself about the all-time-leader in this category of Moby, it's no longer Oliver...
well, as long as the information already on file is accurate, who can really complain. i mean, half the tech specs for a game is better than none.
Well, I always try to submit as much info as I can when I run across something. I think that's fun. If it wasn't, I wouldn't do it. By now I mostly don't even care about the points, I just do it.
What I really hate to see are lazy one-sentence descriptions. It's one thing if it is a very simple game or if there are close to none sure information available but mostly there is enough to fill at least two small paragraphs with a bit story and a bit gameplay mechanics. I try to expand these descriptions as good as I can and while this is very well paid it is still a lot of work. I could use this time for more interesting things, e.g. transcribing back covers.
Neither annoyed nor excited.
Not annoyed because we all put in as much time and effort as we want to. And an incomplete entry is better than no entry at all, and also requires a basic amount of work.
Not excited because I like browsing complete entries. And if I spot a hole I can fill, I just do it, but there's too many of them to do it all the time.
Annoyed for different reasons. Applies to all entries.
We do not have method to re-check sources. Either by quotation/citations or access to sources originally provided.
When human error does occur, usually anyone has to do the research all over again.
When I first joined MobyGames I was just excited, because with missing information I could of course collect points. But now I'm both excited and a little annoyed. I'm annoyed because when I submit the information that was missing now, it usually gets stuck in the pending state for many months before someone bothers to look at it.
There are only two things I keep running into entries as being incomplete. Mainstream games with covers tagged as US cover only (not tagged as Canadian as well which like 99% of the time they are). And the other thing that I've run into all the time that annoys me as being incomplete is that Story/Presentation isn't checked as a rating. Sooo many games are missing this.
Sadformobygames Mike Wrote:
I'm not sure why this isn't checked automatically for non-compilation games. I can't really imagine a game that doesn't have some kind of presentation.
I'm not sure wasn't their a info longer ago one of our Masters said: "Story/Presentation" should only be used for all kind of Adventures... ?
If i had a wish free, i would like to see several cover scans - let's say for the start with less than 100dpi - leaving the database. I'm sure we have thousands of scans we could exchange with at least 200dpi scans.
Perhaps most contributors do not know that they receive FULL 3 POINTS for each cover - the full amount for exchanges as for new ones - that should be a good motivation...
Actually a good point. It's difficult to find covers that need to be replaced. They don't show up the Most Wanted search. If you have a stack of games and search for every one individually, you're going to hit entries with covers, but you'll have to look closely to see they need replacement.
Do you send any kind of notification to the previous submitter to let them know why they've suddenly been stripped of 3 points? I would be reluctant to do this, if it means robbing someone else. I'm not that greedy for points, yet!
I thought replacements kept the original points intact?
Yes, can confirm this too, i contributed lots of larger covers to exchange the existing of an german contributor, he never lost points. And the last days i had several of my C64 scans exchanged with new better/higher-res ones, and i also lost no points.
For other contributions like credits entry - deleted without a replacement correction, or wrong/incomplete release infos - that costs points.
DJP Mom Wrote:
I'm pretty sure the system's sent me "You've lost points!" messages a few times. :P
(Edited by Indra is awakening... (16450), Apr 12, 2010)Re: Entry leftovers
Indra is awakening... (16450), Apr 12, 2010
Usually it's just Porn Copper's or Sciere's comment: "No longer needed", "merged", or "moved to another page" and an explicit "rejected".