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User AvatarI doubt those U.S. soldiers want to return to Hanoi after their slick got zapped... I'd change the description but I've never played the game.
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 09, 2008
User AvatarHeh. No, I think the description is correct.
(Edited by FrakesJoe (NSDSP) (8), Jan 09, 2008)
Re: Description mistake...
FrakesJoe (NSDSP) (8), Jan 09, 2008
User AvatarWow... that was fast! Anyway...

Quoting the description: You and your squad are on their flight back to Hanoi when Vietcong forces shoot down your helicopter. With your helicopter totally wrecked and your pilot dead it is your task to bring your men back to Hanoi, directly through more than 100 miles of Vietcong territory behind enemy lines.

Since when was Hanoi (in the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam) an American base during the war? Is this game set in an alternate reality?

Edit: Neither the text on the boxes nor the intro screenshot mentions anything about "returning to Hanoi".
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 09, 2008
User AvatarOk, I'm looking around and it seems the squad was returning to Hanoi from a "rest and relaxation" break in Saigon, so I guess, returning to the fray.
User AvatarWait... U.S. soldiers returning to Hanoi from a party in Saigon?! I haven't seen the game's tagged as "war/comedy".
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 09, 2008
User AvatarWell, if you really feel it is incorrect, do a little research and submit a correction :-) There's a link from the Game page to edit the description :-)
User AvatarIt is incorrect. The soldiers have to make it to Duc Ho, the nearest U.S. base (according to Wikipedia... and perfectly logical)... and not to Hanoi, the capital of their enemy. I'm surprised... didn't they teach the history of the Indochina War the time you were in school? Just curious. I'll put up a new text, but I have to get the game first (it's abandonware AFAIK).
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 10, 2008
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FrakesJoe (NSDSP) Wrote:
I'm surprised... didn't they teach the history of the Indochina War the time you were in school?

We're actually not talking history here, we're talking video game, remember?

You might be able to cobble together enough info about the game with some judicious googling to submit a decent description (though personally I do need to play a game to describe it). Just don't assume that Wikipedia is the last word :-P
Re: Description mistake...
Yearman (14098), Jan 10, 2008
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FrakesJoe (NSDSP) Wrote:
The soldiers have to make it to Duc Ho, the nearest U.S. base



Correct. Hanoi isn't even marked on the map.
User AvatarNo ad blurb, screenshots provide no additional background. Can't say which is right and wrong. If the game developers for example in the ad blurb or introduction said Hanoi, then its Hanoi. Hell, they could say London is in Vietnam. God knows I've seen several historical mess-ups in game documentation before.
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Indra was here... Wrote:
No ad blurb, screenshots provide no additional background. Can't say which is right and wrong. If the game developers for example in the ad blurb or introduction said Hanoi, then its Hanoi.

I can't believe it... Can me someone explain how U.S. soldiers at the height of the Vietnam War, crashed in the central highlands of Vietnam, trying everything to elude their enemy are supposed to go back to... the very heart of their enemy, to have a meet 'n' greet with Uncle Ho in Hanoi Hilton?! Where the fuck is your common sense?!

Indra was here... Wrote:
Hell, they could say London is in Vietnam. God knows I've seen several historical mess-ups in game documentation before.

Fascinating! I'm really eager to learn about examples of historical mess-ups in games tagged Historical (specific/exact) that are similar or even top the description of that one!

I've already checked the game (ST and the DOS versions) and the manuals (Amiga/ST). I'm writing a new description text and adding some trivia for submission within the next days. After that's done I'd kill the thread.
Re: Description mistake...
St_Martyne Bronze Star Contributing Member (3563), Jan 10, 2008
User AvatarRelax. Indra is just implying that if the game developers haven't bothered to be accurate in the first place, we shouldn't be doing their job for them.

So if it is Hanoi in the ad blurb or the game, than we should write Hanoi without any changes, except for adding a [sic!] tag perhaps.
User AvatarEverything's fine! Except the description. And I thought the game description should describe the actual game in a nutshell... and not some fantasies from ad writers.
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 10, 2008
User Avatar"So if it is Hanoi in the ad blurb or the game". Again, relax!
User AvatarThanks for your care, but I'm relaxed. But maybe you, as old hand here, can help me to get some things straight. The lovely city of Hanoi is never mentioned in the game - another contributor already pointed that out, too. If an ad blurb would indeed mention Hanoi (as opposed to the actual game)... what the heck has this to do with the actual description of the game?

P.S.: How can you accurately describe a game based on (a) historical event(s) without discussing the related historical event?
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 10, 2008
User AvatarForget the ad-blurb for gods sake :-D Go with the game! If the historical information in the game itself is incorrect (though you were likely correct in the beginning, and it is just the current description that is inaccurate) then you would want to make mention of that fact.
Re: Description mistake...
Apogee IV (2361), Jan 11, 2008
User AvatarAre you autistic or something? Wow.
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 11, 2008
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Apogee IV Wrote:
Are you autistic or something? Wow.

Uh, pardon me?
User AvatarI guess he means me. I'll have to admit things got a little outta hand here. Anyway, the game description will be changed for sure. Thread over. Nothing to see here.
Re: Description mistake...
Apogee IV (2361), Jan 11, 2008
User AvatarI didn't mean you DJP Mom.
(Edited by Indra was here... Bronze Star Contributing Member (13178), Jan 11, 2008)
Re: Description mistake...
Indra was here... Bronze Star Contributing Member (13178), Jan 11, 2008
User AvatarQuoting with bold text obviously looks much more appeasing. Must mimic this in the future.

P.S. I thought Hanoi was in Italy.
/doh

P.S.S. Any informational screw-ups by developers (if any) should be mentioned in the trivia section. Like Texas being the capital of Singapore.

/doh2.
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 11, 2008
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Indra was here... Wrote:
Quoting with bold text obviously looks much more appeasing. Must mimic this in the future.



It's very catching.
Re: Description mistake...
WildKard (11891), Jan 13, 2008
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FrakesJoe (NSDSP) Wrote:
Fascinating! I'm really eager to learn about examples of historical mess-ups in games tagged Historical (specific/exact) that are similar or even top the description of that one!



While it better not be marked specific/exact, the first Iron Aces game on Dreamcast makes a mess of World War 2. I'm not sure who thought it would be a good idea to redesign the continents of the world to put Japan within a stone's throw of Germany but... it makes it hard to take the game seriously. Edit: Okay, the game description says it's a group of islands somewhere in the pacific... whereas I had always thought they merely redesigned the world map. Lack of reference points on the briefings I guess...
User AvatarI finally made it! The description's changed and I got my first two points with being an obnoxious asshole about a game normal people don't give a shit about.
Re: Description mistake...
DJP Mom (10808), Jan 18, 2008
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FrakesJoe (NSDSP) Wrote:
I finally made it! The description's changed and I got my first two points with being an obnoxious asshole about a game normal people don't give a shit about.

Well congratulations, that makes you a regular Moby person! ;-)
User Avatarwell after all the game IS called LOST patrol.... har har...
 

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