Dragon Age II

aka: DA2
Moby ID: 50783
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Dragon Age II is a sequel to Dragon Age: Origins.

One of the key events early in the first game was the destruction of the village Lothering by the Darkspawn. However, we weren't told that there was at least one person who survived the onslaught: a human named Hawke. Having become a refugee, Hawke travels to an area known as the Free Marches - more specifically, the city of Kirkwall. Hawke's family shares the fate with many other Ferelden refugees; the authorities of Kirkwall are suspicious of the newcomers, and the path to financial stability is anything but easy. Meanwhile, the appearance of the mysterious race of Qunari heralds more trouble to the inhabitants of Kirkwall, as does the growing tension between the Templars and the mages. Hawke is caught in the middle of these political and social conflicts - what shall be the hero's own path?..

Dragon Age II uses a "framed narrative" format: the story is narrated over a decade later by one of Hawke's companions. Similarly to Alpha Protocol, the narrative is rather flexible; motivations and events vary depending on the player's moral choices during the game. The game also adopts the "wheel-based" dialogue system from Mass Effect games: short responses that reflect different tones and attitudes the player wishes to choose for Hawke. Also similarly to Mass Effect, the main character's race and name cannot be changed; however, everything else (appearance, gender, classes) can be freely customized.

The combat system is quite similar to the one used in the previous Dragon Age game (which, in its turn, dates back to the combat style used in Baldur's Gate), though it has been noticeably sped up. Hawke can only be human, but the player can customize his or her physical appearance and character class (warrior, mage, or rogue). The player controls Hawke and up to three active party members, either "programming" their actions by assigning actions that should be taken under certain conditions (for example, healing a party member if his HP drops below 20%), or issuing commands to each character manually. The ability tree is also similar, the player being able to learn new abilities as the characters level up. Many abilities from the first game return, but some are absent or replaced with new ones. The abilities are divided into various disciplines, which correspond to the fighting style of the character.

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Average score: 79% (based on 118 ratings)

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Average score: 3.8 out of 5 (based on 63 ratings with 5 reviews)

Not quite the same, but still a good sequel

The Good
This game has a good story that builds off of your previous game's choices if you have a saved game from the first Dragon Age. This lets you feel like your choices have had an effect on the world as you start playing the sequel. The story itself may not be unique, but it is interesting and can keep you wanting to see more.

The graphics are very well done as you can usually expect from BioWare. High graphics settings work very well and look great even on lesser graphics cards. It shows how well you can do graphically without forcing players to get the absolute best graphics cards to experience it.

The dialogs are great and can be humorous. The character interactions are as enjoyable as in the original. It is very easy to learn to love or hate your companions and that is very important in a roleplaying game.

As in the original, you have a lot of control over how your character looks. It's always nice to have such control even if you don't see a whole lot of your character's face in the game.

The Bad
One very minor issue I have with this sequel is the choice of voice actors. I did not compare the credits with the original game, but some of the voices sounded the same even though the character was different. It is disorienting to hear the voice from a previous character used for a new character. They would have been better off having some more variety in the voice acting from that of the original, except with repeated characters (such as the return of HER -- if you played the game, you know who I mean).

I also miss the ability to put entire sets of armor on your companions. It isn't a huge concern, but when you have a pack full of different kinds of armor and can't let your companions use the majority of it, it takes away a lot from the game and is a large step backwards from most RPGs.

The achievements that you get are now on a "ribbon" that you move across. The original game had them in rows that allowed many to be displayed at once and made it easy to navigate. Now, you can see only a few at once and it's a pain to get a quick view of how many are left to unlock. It's definitely not game-breaking because you're not looking at that often, but it is worse than the original.

Character talents or skills are another thing that has gotten worse. In the original, they were in an easy to see format. Yes, they were more linear than they are now, but not by all that much. Now, you have to click on each category to see what is available and trying to see what requirements are needed to get the later skills takes more effort. They could have done a much better job laying out the skills than they did. Again, this is a minor issue, but it is another thing that went downhill.

The Bottom Line
This game is different from the original and that can be both good and bad depending on who you ask. The original was very well done and this game removed a number of things that made the original so much fun. Even so, if you're willing to take the time to get used to the differences, you will find that this sequel is still a great game.

Combat takes some getting used to after playing the original, but it doesn't take too long to no longer mind the differences. Gameplay itself is pretty much the same otherwise.

It looks from what I wrote above that there is more wrong with the game than right with it. That's really not true, though. Yes, the game isn't necessarily as good as the original because of some changes that really shouldn't have been made. However, none of these things are serious problems. They really only look bad when compared to the original. If you compare this game to different games, these issues really aren't issues anymore.

This game is a great game. The day I picked up my copy of the Signature edition, I started playing once I got home from work around 5:30 or 6:00pm. I played non-stop until about 11:15pm without realizing the passage of time. I hadn't even eaten dinner or had anything to drink. Few games draw me into them that well. I can play many games for that long without a problem, but I still notice the time. This game was just that engrossing.

Some of the changes may have been ill-advised, but it certainly is worth playing. If you enjoyed the original, you will enjoy this sequel. Just don't try holding it to the standards of the original, or at least be willing to get used to the differences.

Windows · by Riamus (8480) · 2011

Good sequel and a good game

The Good
The story:

Compared to Dragon Age: Origins the characters are a lot more interesting and diverse. I ended up with using Anders, Varric and Merill as my core-group and I was surprised that even nearing the end of the game they would still talk with each other on a regular basis, with no conversations been repeated. In Origins the conversations stopped after an hour because they ran out of subjects to talk about.

The story is much darker and daring than the previous one. There is conflict between multiple (mostly religious) factions, innocents often end up dying due to politics our of their control and nobody seems to be safe from the works of satanic blood mages. Also big ups for allowing me to use my save from Origins in order to change events in this game.

Some of the quests I assumed were simple and unimportant side-quests would show up later in the story. It really shows everything was planned out really well.

Gameplay:

The combat is more chaotic, in Origins my favorite moment was right at the end during the showdown in Denerim because there were grunts all over the place that died in on or two hits. It didn't make the fights any harder, but it did make for a more epic feeling.

The game is a lot more linear, which means that you spend less time checking bloody side-paths and more time moving forward.

Figuring out what ability to choose is much easier now. Every type has one screen (swords, shields, entropy etc.) And there you see a useful screen showing what you can and can't pick. In Origins you had to scroll down one big list with all the types thrown together.

There is more combat and to me that is one big plus. They even removed the fights that happen whenever you travel somewhere almost entirely because there is a mob of enemies waiting around every corner.

Bugs that were fixed:

In Origins I always had a fight with the looting system because it would take a few seconds for non-humanoid enemies to become loot-able. Here it is fixed and that helps a lot.

People stopped randomly assaulting me while we were talking. I had that a lot in Origins and it was annoying!

The Bad
Presentation:

While Kirkwall is better for story, it doesn't really help the presentation. Everything is the same and you are going to miss Ferelden's variety in areas.

Besides the occasional interesting gory scene the game seems to phoned the blood in a bit. I only saw a handful of finishing moves as well and some of those were in cutscenes that were part of a quest. I did run into a dagger which made enemies explode when back-stabbed, that was pretty sweet.

Difficulty:

I would sometimes run into amazingly hard fights simply by walking into a random alley where a boss would spawn or attacking a single enemy that summoned a whole army of friends to help him. I always save before boss-fights when I know they are going to show up, but I can't possibly be prepared for some of these fights. I once accidentally walked right into a High Dragon, the hardest boss in the entire game.

The auto-save can be annoying at times. One time I died during a boss-fight and I forgot to save before entering his room, so I figured I would be placed back at the start of the castle I died in, but instead I got send back like thirty minutes and had to do all the choices and mini-fights all over again.

The Bottom Line
I would like to call Dragon Age 2 an improvement over Dragon Age: Origins. It is darker and more daring and the gameplay has improved (thanks in part to the removal of some very annoying bugs). The game's presentation may be a little lacking, but I am willing to ignore that.

Dragon Age 2 is much easier to pick up than the first Dragon Age game, so people who want to get into the franchise may find it easier to work through it backwards. Fans of the franchise will run into some frustration due to the many changes that were made, but this game does pay off in the end. A good game and a good sequel!

Xbox 360 · by Asinine (957) · 2011

Wasted potential

The Good
I like the graphics a lot, especially the character re-designs. For example, in Dragon Age: Origins the Qunari just looked like regular humans with different skin, but in Dragon Age II they have a very unique look. After replaying both games in 2020, I feel the style aged much better than Origins.

The premise of the game is fantastic: The story is based in and around a single city - Kirkwall - over the course of multiple years. After each chapter there is a time leap and both the city (at least in theory) and Hawke's (the protagonist) status in the city changes over that time. The story is very personal and Hawke never saves the world, but nevertheless the main conflict may have a lasting effect on the whole continent.

However, the real star are the companions: every companions except for the DLC character Sebastian is very well written and interesting. The best quests of the game evolve around them and almost all have close ties to the main plot. The friendship/rivalry system does not work flawlessly, but it is definitely much better than the gift system in Origins.

Personally I was never a big fan of BioWare romances, but I like them in DAII because develop over time and take the companion's characters into account (however, I have to admit I only experienced two of them so far). What I like most is that BioWare has the guts to have the first close NPC companion reject Hawke's advances and follow her own love interest.

The Bad
During my 2020 replay I thought long and hard about why this game just does not work despite the good writing and premise and is even hated by many.

My conclusion: the big problem is Kirkwall. The city only consists of four very small areas (maybe a fifth of Athkatla's districts in Baldur's Gate II) and three outside areas which are fully explored after the first four hours. Afterwards they never change significantly, even after the time leaps. This means the environment and exploration is completely irrelevant and the majority of the game is spent in quests. This becomes old very quickly and is worsened by the fact that there is only one layout for each type of inside area (one cave, one temple, one warehouse etc.) which is repeated over and over again.

Unfortunately the quests can't make up for the deficiencies in environmental variety. Most quests have a very episodic feel because they mostly have no direct follow-up. For example, you may do a 10-minute-quest for a NPC and then whole thing is forgotten for multiple hours or even until the next chapter. For me this meant I never had any personal interest in the quests or the NPCs (except my companions) and did not even bother to look up which quest the next quest marker belongs to. I also have some major concerns about the resolution of the main quest, but because of spoilers I won't get into the details.

The second problem is the combat. The system is simplified compared to Origins, but this is not the problem. I enjoyed pressing the "awesome button" for a lot of explosions and nice animations, but you almost exclusively fight against trash mobs. Don't get me wrong, Origins also had way too many trash mobs, but in DAII there are maybe four interesting fights in the whole game. I also absolutely hate the wave system which just teleports more trash mobs into the fight area. This would be OK when used sparingly, but here this occurs in every single fight.

I also have a major gripe about the character system. The attribute and talent selection is fine, but you only can use armor on Hawke. This did frustrate me a lot: a third of the acquired equipment is useless because Hawke has the wrong class and you can't give it to your companions either.

The user interface is also bad. For example, in Origins you had access to all companions in the camp. Now you have to change Hawke's companions in the field in order to distribute rings and other trinkets or to level them up. You can also tell it was designed with a controller in mind, but in the PC version you can't actually use one.

The Bottom Line
Dragon Age II is a frustrating game to play because it has so much unused potential. It has so many aspects which are better executed than in Origins (companions, art design, the basic plot), but it never comes together. Normally I can overlook the flaws of a game if its strengths manage to grasp my love, but this is a case where the flaws manage to ruin the good parts.

Dragon Age II is not a bad game, but was obviously rushed through production. If BioWare had more time to dedicate to level design, quest design and plot development, it could have become the best BioWare game since Baldur's Gate II. But as it stands, it is a big disappointment, both in 2011 and 2020.

Windows · by Patrick Bregger (298879) · 2020

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Is this how you're supposed to play it? Slug Camargo (583) Mar 27, 2011
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Trivia

Cancelled expansion

An expansion to Dragon Age II, named Exalted March, was planned, but cancelled before announcement. Bioware's reasoning was that other opportunities for the franchises came up, and that there was no room for it because Bioware's team sizes are fixed and all of them were busy with projects.

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  • 4Players
    • 2011 – Biggest Disappointment of the Year
  • GameStar/GamePro (Germany)
    • 2011 - #3 PC RPG of the Year (Readers' Vote)
    • 2011 - #3 Console RPG of the Year (Readers' Vote)

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Game added March 10, 2011. Last modified March 15, 2024.