PC-88 and PC-98 are now supported!

LepricahnsGold (142512) on 6/29/2010 8:43 PM · Permalink · Report

As a mention, the database also contains the BBC Micro's lesser known brother, the Acorn Electron.

j.raido 【雷堂嬢太朗】 (69556) on 6/29/2010 9:17 PM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Unicorn Lynx wrote--] It is also notorious for hosting the overwhelming majority of pre-Windows adult games, so if you are under 18, don't browse through this platform :) [/Q --end Unicorn Lynx wrote--] Really! There is so much porn for this thing it's totally overwhelming. It takes quite a bit of luck to pick out a random game from the library and find one that ISN'T full of wacky anime sex.

PC-88 is a nice surprise, though. There's a lot of really weird, obscure, cool games on there, and it's where a fair few significant Japanese developers either got their start or their first inspirations. I'll definitely be digging through the library looking for games to add. :)

Indra was here (20655) on 7/24/2010 9:58 PM · edited · Permalink · Report

[Q --start 雷堂承太朗 -djsw- wrote--] Really! There is so much porn for this thing it's totally overwhelming. It takes quite a bit of luck to pick out a random game from the library and find one that ISN'T full of wacky anime sex. [/Q --end 雷堂承太朗 -djsw- wrote--] Eh?

Dang it, Oleg. If you informed me about this from day 1, I would have made it my personal crusade!

Игги Друге (46173) on 6/29/2010 9:37 PM · Permalink · Report

I'd say that the PC-88 is even more historically significant. The PC-98 has a wealth of original pornographic games, but the PC-88 was the breeding ground for a lot of original game series which were ported to other platforms, some even surviving to this day. This is where Falcom started out, for instance.

formercontrib (157780) on 6/29/2010 9:54 PM · Permalink · Report

Ich sag einfach mal ganz pauschal... Dicke Titten! ... erscheint mir unabhängig von allem anderen, für diese Platformen angemessen ;)

Alaka (96374) on 6/29/2010 11:18 PM · Permalink · Report

It's always good to hear that new systems have been added (or correctly added in the PC-98 case) to the database. I wonder what systems are next to be added. :D

formercontrib (157780) on 6/30/2010 12:19 AM · edited · Permalink · Report

I'm afraid, we should not await too much.

4 new systems now in 7 weeks :) - Acorn Electron, BBC Micro, and now the PC-88 and PC-98. BlackBerry in January, DSi in February ... i think it's at the time to fill them with more life, especially the Electron + Micro, with a four-digit potential.

I'm in good hope about the PC-88+98 --- Unicorn will fill them immediately - until he gets an sperm-shock - i'm sure he's not only rubs his hands at the moment ;)

Think we should work hard for those ones now, before thinking about the next platforms...

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 6/30/2010 5:09 AM · Permalink · Report

until he gets an sperm-shock - i'm sure he's not only rubs his hands at the moment ;)

Hey, hey, my interest in PC-98 games is strictly historical :)

I just download games alphabetically and submit them one-by-one, no discrimination on the base of genre, graphical style, or presence or absence of nude mammaries :) It's not my fault most of PC-98 games are hentai :)

Let's put it this way: disregarding the fact that I live together with a young, beautiful girlfriend, I wouldn't choose hand-drawn caricatures as additional sexual stimulation :)

POMAH (65974) on 6/30/2010 11:31 AM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start ALAKA wrote--]It's always good to hear that new systems have been added ... to the database. I wonder what systems are next to be added. :D [/Q --end ALAKA wrote--]

I propose to add "Oric" and "Thomson 8-bit" platforms famous for British and French developers / players especially, but slightly older than PC-98.

However, congratulations to PC-98 platform familiar for Japanese-oriented auditory!!!

vedder (66330) on 6/30/2010 11:49 AM · Permalink · Report

In line with our usual policy to add newer platforms first, I'm betting on the iPad. It has my vote as well since I have already played a bunch of games on it at work.

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 6/30/2010 12:02 PM · Permalink · Report

If the next platforms are not Sharp x68000 and FM Towns, I'm going berserk!

vedder (66330) on 6/30/2010 12:21 PM · Permalink · Report

Pfft, give them a finger and they take the whole hand

I could say the same about Terminal, Platform Independent and Arcade. Particularly Arcade has been in the MobyGames Design Goals and Manifesto for as long as I've been coming here and I'm still waiting for it...

But right now I'm happy seeing all the porn being removed from DOS ;)

LepricahnsGold (142512) on 6/30/2010 2:48 PM · Permalink · Report

"I propose to add "Oric" and "Thomson 8-bit" platforms famous for British and French developers / players especially, but slightly older than PC-98."

"If the next platforms are not Sharp x68000 and FM Towns, I'm going berserk!"

Well, if we're gonna wish for something, what about the SAM Coupé?

LepricahnsGold (142512) on 7/13/2010 2:35 AM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start LepricahnsGold wrote--]"I propose to add "Oric" and "Thomson 8-bit" platforms famous for British and French developers / players especially, but slightly older than PC-98."

"If the next platforms are not Sharp x68000 and FM Towns, I'm going berserk!"

Well, if we're gonna wish for something, what about the SAM Coupé? [/Q --end LepricahnsGold wrote--] And why stop wishing? What about Emerson Arcadia 2001 and Bally Astrocade?

Trypticon (11015) on 6/30/2010 12:58 PM · Permalink · Report

That change/addition is really good. I believe it's not so commonly known that both machines were released in the west at the beginning of the 80's, I hope any games that were programmed back then will one day also appear. Chances are slim that more than a handful if any exist, but I assume some English freeware was at least done.

LepricahnsGold (142512) on 6/30/2010 2:14 PM · Permalink · Report

With all this clamoring about the PC-88 and PC-98, I wanted to mention that the PC-FX has quietly slipped into MobtGames as well.

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 6/30/2010 2:41 PM · Permalink · Report

I wanted to mention that the PC-FX has quietly slipped into MobtGames as well.

Well, it's been there for a long time. And I added its entire library, hehe :)

Kaminari (1081) on 7/1/2010 2:36 PM · Permalink · Report

Great news and good job from Uni.

Nice to see that being insulted for advocating this change for years has nevertheless proved useful in the end. I think it was worth the contempt and ignorance displayed by some people.

Now maybe I can hope again for the PC Engine, SuperGrafx and US TurboGrafx to be managed as separate entities, which will definitely convince me to contribute again to MG. Should I remind everyone that those machines have an almost entirely different game library and incompatible hardware, especially the cartridges? I'm not even mentioning the language. It's downright infuriating and ridiculous to see games like Momotarō Densetsu or 1941 dumbly listed as TurboGrafx games (I challenge anyone to try running those games on a standard factory TG-16).

Small note: the PC-88 is more akin to a CPC than a PC Booter. Hardware-wise, it's a Z80-based machine which has next to nothing to do with the PC-98. And I hope the PC-88VA will eventually be treated as a specific system as well, since it's not exactly a PC-88 to begin with -- it's a i186-based computer with a more or less Z80 backward compatible mode.

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 7/1/2010 2:44 PM · Permalink · Report

I thought PC Engine is just the Japanese name for TurboGrafx. Isn't is the same as Famicom/NES, Megadrive/Genesis, etc.? I mean, you can't run a Japanese PS2 game on a US PS2 as well, unless you modify it... what are the other differences between PC Engine and TurboGrafx?

I do hope, though, that the names of the systems will be displayed properly. For example, Megadrive/Genesis instead of just "Genesis".

I mean, it's awfully US-centric to have only US names for all consoles.

I wonder what Sciere thinks about it? It's not even a real change, all we need is to correct the text. "SNES/Super Famicom" instead of just "SNES", for example.

Also, we have stuff like "SEGA Saturn" but for some reason just "Playstation"; why no "Sony"?..

A little consistency would be nice...

Sciere (844959) on 7/1/2010 3:11 PM · edited · Permalink · Report

Chances are the site explodes when I change a platform name. That part of the site is filled with red warnings: "You really shouldn't be doing this after a platform goes live." That's really something only Brian should do, if needed.

Lain Crowley (6598) on 7/13/2010 4:22 AM · Permalink · Report

Because the system's name is the SEGA Saturn, not the Saturn. There is not one instance, anywhere, on hardware or software, of the Saturn being referred to as just the Saturn. PlayStation, on the other hand, is almost always referred to as just PlayStation.

Patrick Bregger (286787) on 7/1/2010 4:52 PM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Kaminari wrote--] Nice to see that being insulted for advocating this change for years has nevertheless proved useful in the end. I think it was worth the contempt and ignorance displayed by some people. [/Q --end Kaminari wrote--] I think the "insults" against you are less because you are advocating changes but more because you are being an arrogant ass about it. The childish "I'll never contribute again and go away forever because you are so stupid" also doesn't help.

Terok Nor (34839) on 7/1/2010 6:47 PM · edited · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Kaminari wrote--]It's downright infuriating and ridiculous to see games like Momotarō Densetsu or 1941 dumbly listed as TurboGrafx games (I challenge anyone to try running those games on a standard factory TG-16).[/Q --end Kaminari wrote--]

Simple: just put a adapter that flips eight friggin' pins between the HuCard and the TG-16. What do I win?

And you really want to separate TG-16 and PCE because of that? Do you also advocate splitting Sony, Sega and Nintendo consoles into different versions because they have region protection? It's the same hardware inside, and with a little bit of hacking software from all regions runs on any machine.

The name issue is totally different from that. Are you also infuriated because we list Japanese Famicom and Super Famicom releases under NES and SNES?

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 7/2/2010 1:59 AM · Permalink · Report

The name issue is totally different from that. Are you also infuriated because we list Japanese Famicom and Super Famicom releases under NES and SNES?

Well, I don't know about Kaminari, but I do feel weird when I see a Japanese-only game listed for TurboGrafx. I don't suggest to split TurboGrafx and PC Engine, but something must be done about the US-centric platform names.

I thought it would be very easy to rename platforms - say, Genesis/Megadrive, or something simple like this, but Sciere here says it's too complicated...

On another note, is it me, or does somebody else feel that a little information about a platform on its browser page would be nice? We document everything connected to video games. We have meticulous descriptions, screenshots, and credits for games. Then why do we have empty pages for systems? Wouldn't it be easy to add a short space for a description? Say, release date, tech spec? Perhaps a picture?

j.raido 【雷堂嬢太朗】 (69556) on 7/2/2010 6:04 AM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Unicorn Lynx wrote--]On another note, is it me, or does somebody else feel that a little information about a platform on its browser page would be nice? We document everything connected to video games. We have meticulous descriptions, screenshots, and credits for games. Then why do we have empty pages for systems? Wouldn't it be easy to add a short space for a description? Say, release date, tech spec? Perhaps a picture? [/Q --end Unicorn Lynx wrote--] This has been brought up multiple times before. I believe the framework for it is in place, and there are even a few platforms that have it tucked away somewhere, but I don't know how close to a finished state it's in...or how to actually get to the page it's on.

Sciere (844959) on 7/2/2010 8:09 AM · edited · Permalink · Report

one day - hasn't been worked on for years.

Unicorn Lynx (180537) on 7/2/2010 8:33 AM · Permalink · Report

That looks awesome, and... how hard is it to implement this much-needed feature?.. Can we press the bosses more to have it?

vedder (66330) on 7/2/2010 9:56 AM · edited · Permalink · Report

You can already hoard points there by submitting pictures :) God knows when they'll be approved though...

vedder (66330) on 7/2/2010 10:40 AM · edited · Permalink · Report

It just stuck me that new users that look at the "New Games" list right now will see a very strange and one-dimensional look at what MobyGames is trying to document :)

j.raido 【雷堂嬢太朗】 (69556) on 7/2/2010 11:08 AM · Permalink · Report

I can picture it in my mind...

"Huh, what's this one? Oh, porn. What about this one? ...more porn. Maybe this one is...nope. Are they just trying to get around someone's work filter?"

And then we get blacklisted by web filter services. Good times.

Starbuck the Third (22660) on 7/2/2010 2:35 PM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start vedder wrote--]You can already hoard points there by submitting pictures :) God knows when they'll be approved though... [/Q --end vedder wrote--]

Based on the two hardware images that i submitted and are yet to be approved, at least 4 months.

Even then, it was a minor stroke of luck that i found it. Part of another thread, i think. It'll probably be worth making it easier to find, especially for people coming here doing a research project or something similar.

Corn Popper (68635) on 7/20/2010 7:07 AM · Permalink · Report

The basics are there as a test... there are more things that need to be added before this goes live which of course requires Brian but it's not high on the list of things to add at this time.

Pseudo_Intellectual (64957) on 7/2/2010 6:20 PM · Permalink · Report

Well, I don't know about Kaminari, but I do feel weird when I see a Japanese-only game listed for TurboGrafx. I don't suggest to split TurboGrafx and PC Engine, but something must be done about the US-centric platform names.

I thought it would be very easy to rename platforms - say, Genesis/Megadrive, or something simple like this, but Sciere here says it's too complicated...

Seems like it could be tied to the same hypothetical technology that will first show you the game name / cover art appropriate to your part of the world. Just throw in "platform name" to that list of matters for geographical consideration 8)

Grandy02 (605) on 7/5/2010 1:15 PM · edited · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Pseudo_Intellectual wrote--]Seems like it could be tied to the same hypothetical technology that will first show you the game name / cover art appropriate to your part of the world. Just throw in "platform name" to that list of matters for geographical consideration 8) [/Q --end Pseudo_Intellectual wrote--] Actually, the game title never changes (at least not for me). Only the standard cover you see at a game page and elsewhere. What means that the first The Settlers is still called "Serf City", for example. :P

In case of the console names, I'd mainly mind about something like Mega Drive/Genesis, as about half of or even the majority of visitors knows the console as the Mega Drive. But I agree that we don't need separate systems because of name differences and region lockout.

Anyway, according to Alexa, less than one third of the visitors are from the US. What does still support the US name rule, other than the site's origin? Wouldn't a UK title be more appropriate for a UK-created game at a site with such an international user base, for example?

vedder (66330) on 7/5/2010 1:28 PM · edited · Permalink · Report

I was shocked to see that IMDB recently switched from original titles to International English titles. They always were my example of how it SHOULD be done. But apparently they didn't think so themselves :/

Although, you can still set them to original if you have a (free) account.

MZ per X (3010) on 7/8/2010 9:44 AM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Unicorn Lynx wrote--]It is also notorious for hosting the overwhelming majority of pre-Windows adult games, so if you are under 18, don't browse through this platform :) [/Q --end Unicorn Lynx wrote--] When I was under 18, I would have followed your advice. giggles