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formercontrib (157837) on 4/18/2013 9:04 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

No interactivity - no user input. Only waiting and watching for 4min33s. if someone else does it too or not ?

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Indra was here (20774) on 4/18/2013 9:47 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

If someone glues a bicycle chain together with a water sink, puts in in a glass box, and calls it the expression of the struggles of Native American people, is it art?

Personally, I just call it lazy. And no, not art, or else every garbage can would have an audience.

Same reasoning here.

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chirinea (46950) on 4/18/2013 11:07 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

Well, it isn't only waiting, is waiting and rooting that anyone else in the world is running the game, or else you lose. It's kinda like a starting contest. =)

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Indra was here (20774) on 4/18/2013 11:09 PM · edited · Reply · Permalink · Report

But to be fair, if the intent of the developer was to create a game, then it's a game.
Though 'in bad taste' must still be explicitly expressed.

Only problem if someone created a white screenshot and calls it game: the game starts after you stare long enough and start getting hallucinations.

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Pseudo_Intellectual (64872) on 4/18/2013 11:23 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

It's not dissimilar to a game of nerves like "chicken" or a staring contest, both of which could be considered games of sorts wherein nothing happens until one player performs an action that renders the game lost. It's true that the presentation is unorthodox, but I for one champion the unorthodox.

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Fred VT (25891) on 4/18/2013 11:33 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

And if those games can be called games, then a similar principle on a digital platform automatically becomes a video game, right?

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Pseudo_Intellectual (64872) on 4/19/2013 12:08 AM · Reply · Permalink · Report

If you asked joyquality, he might say no. If you asked me, I might say yes. It has a "win" condition, which is more than can be said for SimCity.

There is also a whole genre of "idle" games out there, which essentially play themselves, some of which I have documented here.

(And, of course, "Don't Shoot the Puppy", where the challenge is precisely not to interact with the game.)

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vileyn0id_8088 (21187) on 4/20/2013 4:59 AM · Reply · Permalink · Report

Oooh, an "idle" genre you say? I'd better get crackin' on the alpha for The Transcendental Beauty of Waiting for your Mobygames Submission to be Processed.

Ad blurb: "4 minutes and 33 seconds? Don't make me laugh, puny Earthling. >:]"

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Fred VT (25891) on 4/20/2013 1:21 PM · edited · Reply · Permalink · Report

[Q --start vile_r wrote--]The Transcendental Beauty of Waiting for your Mobygames Submission to be Processed. [/Q --end vile_r wrote--]

The best part of the game would be when the submission gets sent back for a single typo(that could simply have been corrected by the approver), which means it has to get back in the queue the correction has been made.... -_-'

And I'm not talking about the escalations...

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Patrick Bregger (284109) on 4/20/2013 1:29 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

However, that is not that bad. The item enters the queue at the place it originally was (based on the original contribution date). So if the queue was processed in order, the item usually re-appears on first place.

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Fred VT (25891) on 4/20/2013 4:04 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

Ah, I didn't know that one. I thought it got at the end of the queue... But now I know, that nobody checks the PS platforms :p Because there are no new games in my queue, so only my submissions are left XD

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vileyn0id_8088 (21187) on 4/20/2013 5:46 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Patrick Bregger wrote--]However, that is not that bad. The item enters the queue at the place it originally was (based on the original contribution date). So if the queue was processed in order, the item usually re-appears on first place. [/Q --end Patrick Bregger wrote--] Hmmm... what if I pull my own submission to make a correction, then resubmit? does it still retain its original place in the queue then?

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vedder (64396) on 4/20/2013 6:12 PM · Reply · Permalink · Report

Should be. I think (of the top of my hat) the submission start date counts, not even the date you submitted it.