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The cranky hermit (2926) on 12/12/2008 3:14 AM · Permalink · Report
Another game group suggestion sent back to me.
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I have a game group suggestion: Super Mario Series. The main difference between this and the existing "Mario Licensees" group is that it excludes the dozens and dozens of spinoff and spinoff series. The group description would be:
Nintendo-licensed platform games featuring Mario as the main character.
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Basically, I think there should be a game group that includes Super Mario Bros. and all the games that are clearly direct sequels to it, like SMB3 and SMW, but excludes all the games that clearly are not, like the Mario Kart and Mario Party games. You could say Super Mario series is to Mario licensees as Ultima series is to Ultima universe.
Here's what I would put into the group myself:
Super Mario Bros. (1985)
Super Mario Bros. 2J (1986)
Super Mario Bros. 2US (1988)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988)
Super Mario Land (1989)
Super Mario World (1990)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (1992)
Super Mario 64 (1996)
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
New Super Mario Bros. (2006)
Super Mario Galaxy (2007)
...and any of the nine jillion GBC/GBA/DS versions of any of these games that I didn't feel like listing.
Alaka (106097) on 12/12/2008 8:18 AM · Permalink · Report
Would Super Paper Mario fit into this group? According to wikipedia it contains a combination of the previous Paper Mario titles and Super Mario Bros. titles. How about the original Mario Bros? Is the only thing holding this group together is that the game has Super Mario in the title?
Somebody bring me Sisko! (8) on 12/12/2008 6:18 PM · edited · Permalink · Report
[Q --start Kit Silva wrote--]The only games that should be on the group are:
Super Mario 1, 2, 3, New, and the remakes of the original 3. That's the core Super Mario Bros. series, the rest can be considered spinoffs. [/Q --end Kit Silva wrote--] And I swear I've seen Super Mario Bros. 4 written on the Jap. cover of Super Mario World. But who needs that nonsense anway, it's a Mario licensees game group with the word "Super" tacked on. Great. What about browsing the Mario licencees game group for the preferred genres only?
Foxhack (32100) on 12/12/2008 9:38 PM · Permalink · Report
[Q --start FrakesJoe (NSDSP) wrote--] [Q2 --start Kit Silva wrote--]The only games that should be on the group are:
Super Mario 1, 2, 3, New, and the remakes of the original 3. That's the core Super Mario Bros. series, the rest can be considered spinoffs. [/Q2 --end Kit Silva wrote--] And I swear I've seen Super Mario Bros. 4 written on the Jap. cover of Super Mario World. But who needs that nonsense anway, it's a Mario licensees game group with the word "Super" tacked on. Great. What about browsing the Mario licencees game group for the preferred genres only? [/Q --end FrakesJoe (NSDSP) wrote--]No, you're right, SMW/SMW4 should be added to this new group.
I had no idea that the game was SMB4 in Japan.
Depeche Mike (17455) on 12/12/2008 10:35 PM · Permalink · Report
If anything it should be a group for Super Mario Platform games.
The cranky hermit (2926) on 12/14/2008 1:54 AM · edited · Permalink · Report
(my quotes aren't working and I don't know why)
[Q --start ALAKA wrote--]Would Super Paper Mario fit into this group?[/Q --end ALAKA wrote--] I haven't played it. From what I've heard, it's not really thought of as a sequel to any SMB game, so my gut says no.
[Q --start ALAKA wrote--]How about the original Mario Bros?[/Q --end ALAKA wrote--] Sure, I could see that. The "Ultima series" group has room for Akalabeth, so it would be consistent to include Mario Bros. in a "Super Mario series."
[Q --start ALAKA wrote--]But why are the rest considered spinoffs?[/Q --end ALAKA wrote--] Probably because they are not platform games. It's hard to think of a go-kart racing game as being a true sequel to a platform game.
[Q --start ShabbyPie wrote--] Mario Bros Punch Ball (1984) Mario Bros Special (1984) Super Mario Bros Special (1985) Mario Clash (1995) for Virtual Boy [/Q --end ShabbyPie wrote--] I don't think so. The point of the group is to focus on the series of platformers that SMB kicked off, and those would just dilute this focus.
[Q --start ShabbyPie wrote--]So would this include educational games such as Mario is Missing and Mario's Time Machine? Also, Paper Mario was mentioned earlier. How about Mario RPG?[/Q --end ShabbyPie wrote--] These are not platform games.
Somebody bring me Sisko! (8) on 12/14/2008 3:20 AM · Permalink · Report
Ahh, me stupido. I wasn't aware that you can't browse groups for genres. Awesome! So...
a) Mario licensees group, subgroup platformers (including Yoshi/Peach/Wario games)
b) (Super) Mario platformers only (per title)