NetHack or HackLite? (NetHack)

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Игги Друге (46653) on 4/28/2014 9:07 PM · Permalink · Report

I'm uncertain about where HackLite fits in with all this. From the Amiga HackLite 2.8.1 introduction:

<tt> Behold, mortal, the origins of Hack Lite...

    The original HACK was written by Jay Fenlason with help from Kenny
    Woodland, Mike Thome and Jon Payne.

    Andries Brouwer did a major re-write and published (at least) two
    versions (1.0.2 and 1.0.3) to the Usenet.

    PC HACK 3.61 was an MSDOS(tm) version of HACK 1.0.3.  The PC
    implementation was done in Microsoft(tm) C by Don Kneller and
    modified by Ken Arromdee.

    Amiga HACK 1.0.3D was an Amiga version of UNIX HACK 1.0.3. The
    Amiga port was performed by John A. Toebes, VIII, with the
    assistance of other members of the Software Distillery.

    Hack Lite v1.0.0 was a merged version of PC HACK and Amiga Hack,
    created by Alan Beale and John Toebes, incorporating many
    performance and playability improvements.

    Meanwhile, in another part of the dungeon, Mike Stephenson and Ken
    Arromdee created NetHack from PC HACK and UNIX HACK, incorporating
    many modifications and features made by the above, as well as the
    following honored hackers:

        Scott R. Turner    Tom Almy           John S. Bien
        Gil Neiger         Ralf Brown         Eric S. Raymond
        Eric Backus        Roland McGrath     Greg Laskin
        Bruce Holloway     Richard P. Hughey  Kevin Sweet
        Steve Creps        Olaf Seibert

    Hack Lite v2.0.0 (and beyond) for the Amiga and the IBM PC was
    developed by Alan Beale from Hack Lite v1.0.0 and NetHack 2.2, and
    will surely remain the last word in hackery until v3.0.0.

</tt>

So first it's a fork, then it merges NetHack into its sources. Is it a separate game entry or is it two separate game entries?

Pseudo_Intellectual (66360) on 4/29/2014 6:52 AM · Permalink · Report

If Hack and NetHack are different games, then NetHack and HackLite are as well. I think.

Tracy Poff (2094) on 4/29/2014 1:30 PM · Permalink · Report

The question is, I think, whether Hack Lite v1 and Hack Lite v2 are different games.

I think the answer depends on exactly what "developed by Alan Beale from Hack Lite v1.0.0 and NetHack 2.2" means. If v2 based on the source of v1 but takes ideas from NetHack, then it's probably the same game. If it's actually some rewritten game based on both, then it's probably separate. If it is actually combining the two (i.e. source code from each glued together), it's probably separate.

I guess we'd have to know a bit more about the relationship between the games. Do we have any more info?

Pseudo_Intellectual (66360) on 4/29/2014 4:30 PM · Permalink · Report

Also: playing the game could shed some light on the possible distinction.

Игги Друге (46653) on 4/30/2014 12:41 PM · Permalink · Report

[Q --start Pseudo_Intellectual wrote--]Also: playing the game could shed some light on the possible distinction. [/Q --end Pseudo_Intellectual wrote--] There are often more differences between single revisions of a Hack port than between different Hack ports. To me, they look all alike, all different.