Space Empires IV

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Average score: 71% (based on 13 ratings)

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Average score: 3.7 out of 5 (based on 12 ratings with 4 reviews)

The way 4x games were meant to be played

The Good
It would seem that there is no shortage of 4x space themed games. From Emporer of the Fading Suns, to MOO, to Galactic Civilizations (the list goes on and on), we have a smorgasbord of titles to choose from if this genre piques our interests. Despite this, Space Empires IV sticks out above the plethora of other titles.

So what makes this game better than most others in its class? Early on, the game makes more mundane aspects of play rather simple, while the more fun parts have a higher level of complexity. This makes getting started easier. For example, there are only three different types of resources in SEIV This works just fine, do we really need twenty? Ship creation on the other hand allows for open ended type flexibility that allows for personal styles, tactics, and preferences to be fully realized (more on this in a bit).

The options for starting a game are varied and fully customizable. Victory conditions can be based off of total victory, score, technology level, among other things. There are several different galaxy sizes, from relatively cramped to hopelessly gigantic. Number of enemy players may be selected, and there is TCP/IP multiplayer option.

The menu system is verbose yet simple. With one click you can see every ship you have deployed and their relative locations, every colony you have established, extraterrestrial contact information, etc. You might notice a large colony that has no ships protecting it by switching through the menus. This allows for you to easily put out fires so to speak, in places that you aren't looking directly at during that moment in time.

The technology tree is vast, and midway through the game it is impossible to be proficient in all areas. This creates for a nice check and balance system that ensures that all players have some type of weakness that can potentially be exploited. Ship design is at the forefront of success in SEIV, and this main feature is both an integral part of being proficient in the game and lots of fun as well. Based on resources and technologies available, you may design ships as you see fit. Perhaps if you find yourself very close to a hostile enemy, your ships will be weapon heavy. However, if you find yourself in the far reaches of empty space, design from a logistical standpoint is a more practical approach. Maybe you need a mix of the two? Whatever the case, you have the ability to design ships based on your needs and specific play style. Good stuff!

Combat can be manually turn based or handled by the computer. I have much better success by conducting the battles myself. While the combat actions are somewhat limited, they do offer for choice and some simple turn based fighting strategies. Ships can have certain components damaged during a fight, such as an engine which results in limited speed, or perhaps a cargo bay is destroyed resulting in a loss of a commodity that was being carried. It is sometimes possible to capture a disabled enemy vessel which can allow for a new, instant technological discovery if there are unresearched items on board. It is also possible to install self-destructive devices on your ships to prevent your enemies from getting an easy technological "freebie" in the event that your ship is captured. Again this goes back to ship design, and the options are limitless. I just cannot stress how important and exciting this aspect of the game is in a simple review.

There are many diplomatic and espionage options. What I like is that there are several different types of alliances. Instead of just being allied or at war, it's possible to have varying degrees of disposition towards other empires. You may also trade, beg, or threaten from other empires. While the AI doesn't really respond how I think they should in regards to diplomacy, this is useful in multiplayer games. You may also induce pain on your enemy's colonies by sabotaging their colonies in certain ways. Perhaps messing with citizen loyalty before attacking is advantageous in reducing your attacking forces' losses, or maybe spying on their colony to see what type of items they are producing can reveal if they are planning an attack. I had one enemy reduce the loyalty of one of my distant worlds so much that they actually broke away from my empire, and as a result became an entirely new player introduced half way through the game!

I have to say, even though the music is simple and homemade, it works well to suit the mood of the game. The various tracks range from peaceful and serene to upbeat, but never harsh. As a matter of fact, there is a commercial on Current TV that borrowed a piece of music from this game. I recognized it immediately the first time I heard it.

The system requirements are basically non-existent. If you have a windows computer, you should be able to play this. If you aren't able to play this game due to system requirements, then it's likely that you aren't even able to read this review.

There are few bugs in this game, and I've yet to meet one that resulted in a crash.

The Bad
Unfortunately, this game is not flawless, and some of the design issues are enough to keep me from being a long time, hardcore fan of this series.

First and foremost, 4x games are most fun in multiplayer mode. However, the games are prohibitively long and all it takes is one person to lose interest and stop playing and this can really ruin the game for everyone else due to the way multiplayer is carried out. You basically play everything client side, save the file, and then have it sent to the host. Once the host receives everyone's file for that turn, it basically processes the data and produces a result, sending out the new files to the client players. Because of this, there is a weird kind of delay with some of the actions you might take. It's hard to explain, but think of it like this; you make a move based on another player's "circumstance". Other player's "circumstance" changes on the next turn because they corrected it on the previous turn, therefore your action due to circumstance is no longer relevant. It's frustrating.

The computer does cheat quite a bit, producing resources, ships, and colonies at a rate impossible to that of human players. This is to offset the AI's inability to really think and react to issues like a human being. What this means is that the early game usually consists of nothing more than holding out against the computer, until you happen to get on a level playing field where you can use almighty human intelligence to thoughtfully destroy your enemies that have no chance once the playing field is otherwise equal.

Lastly, the number of colonies and ships that are present in the game grows steadily (unless of course you're losing). The list gets bigger and bigger. It gets to the point where you can have literally hundreds of ships and hundreds of colonies. Despite the menu system being good, the player becomes hopelessly overburdened with empire management to the point where turns can take hours with the majority of time spent sifting through countless colonies and ships, only to find out next turn that you missed taking care of an issue with one anyway. This is a huge turn off as the game shifts from being a varietal 4x fanfare to a logistics simulation.



The Bottom Line
SEIV is one of the better 4x games out there. If you have a lot of patience and pride yourself on strategical creativity, then pick this up right away.

If on the other hand you need a quick fix or a low impact gaming experience, look elsewhere.

Windows · by D Michael (222) · 2007

A great work of art.

The Good
Few Space Empires IV games I have begun, so please take this review as a newbie's. Hope I'm not fishing in troubled waters ;)

At first glance, I cannot say SE4 is impressive. However, at second glance (1 minute later) the true radiance of this game appears, and it's enough shining to blind.

I'm not sure, but I think I haven't seen game customizable like this: not only race stats, abilities and personalities, but also victory conditions, maps, sequential or parallel gameplay... and not only from the game, but also on the txt archives. The options to save generated maps and to design even enemy races... all contribute to make SE4 the game YOU really like.

If you want to delve into the level of detail, hope you're an expert speleologist; list all features, twists and options the game has is a hard task: control limited supplies of ships when traveling, choose between hundreds of different planet types to colonize (as each produces a unique number of resources), design any ship/base/ground battery/satellite you can imagine, develop a colony in hundreds of different ways, take care of resources and happiness of citizens, create trade routes, set emergency works, solar systems have their own grid map... cough (better if I take breath before continuing...) Best of all, the interface is a jewel of game designing: easy to learn and accessible. Oh, but don't be afraid of the micromanagement, since governors ("Ministers") are there to help their lord/lady, even in battle.

The best diplomatic system I have seen to date, without a doubt: demand, give, offer, sign any treaty you want, threaten, implore... the possibility to construct the dialog at your will: as a diplomatic model must be. The tech tree is as huge as a sequoya, and the theoretical/practical duality is a nice addition, along with the possibility of researching many projects at once.

The tactical combat is another strong point: much like MOO2, but includes nice options like form task groups. Ships fire and take damage (of course), but also get specials destroyed, firing takes supplies away, damage impairs movement, crews have experience levels... another example of the outstanding level of detail.

I have multi-played this game at a friend's home (sorry!), but sure I'm going to get my copy as soon as possible. Sound and graphics do their job, plain an simple. Need more? No! I don't believe in "love at the first glance". In a market full of mega-hyper 3D environments, Disney games cloned from the previous one and mission-RTS, seeing a game like SE4 is refreshing. All fans of 4X in space should get, at least, the demo, and judge by themselves.

The Bad
Well... on the first game, a program came to my mind: Ascendancy; much than MOO or its sequel. I think it has the same "feel". And that's not negative: Ascendancy was a game I liked, even with all its problems. What I mean is: I have seen something similar before.

Since I don't know previous SE releases, I cannot judge, but looks like SE4 follows the stream of old space-4X, with new ideas and improvement of new ones. That needn't to be negative, though, as old ideas are greatly enhanced. SE4 goes much far (I think) from its predecessors than, let's say, SMAC from Civ.

There is a feature I miss most: a complex and detailed political model. Different government types you can choose from and change, internal planetary affairs, populace ideologies evolving through the game (and your actions), and the like. In short, SE4 is not really innovative if you have played its cousins before.

The Bottom Line
The true spirit of 4X is in this game. Give it a try: hardly will you became disappointed.

Windows · by Technocrat (193) · 2002

XXXXtremely good!

The Good
You simply won't find a more in depth XXXX game around. The interface is excellent, everything can be on screen at once practically, no multi menu flipping. The game has very low system requirements, it runs on my 166 32 meg. The variety of play styles makes for very good longevity, from an RPG point attribution system better than Master Of Orions to scenario based play. One of the best features of this game I should pont out is its amazing customisability (look it up), all major game files can be edited from paintbrush and notepad. All in all if I were to compare this to Civ 2 Space Empires 4 wins hands down, but this is VERY much personal opinion so buy it and find out for yourself.

The Bad
This game ended any semblance of a life I had before I got it. So if you value your family, friends, job, sleep and anything which may divert you from this game then dont even get the demo. However real life seems so futile when you have seen what the galaxy has to offer. Oh and the graphics and sound (especially sound and music) are pretty pants.

The Bottom Line
The ultimate XXXX game pick it up from shrapnel games today.

Windows · by Hugh McKenna (4) · 2001

Ruinously Bad AI

The Good
The game has improved graphics... and that's about it. Having black holes was interesting, but most of the other "new system types" weren't fleshed out and are essentially pointless. The diplomacy function works better in SE4 than it had in SE3, thankfully. No more setting an armada of a thousand ships in orbit around the last world of an empire and then having them refuse to surrender.

The Bad
To start with, my main point. The AI cheats rampantly. The AI in SE3 was honest. This had the drawback of making it look like it was just rolling over to die most times. I had a lot of fun with Space Empires 3. Not because I liked winning so much that I preferred an easily killed opponent, either. Sometimes the computer trounced me thoroughly, and even when it "rolled over and died" that took hundreds of turns and longer. No, I liked it because the game was played fairly. Contrast this to SE4's computer opponents who will expand with an aggression not even possible to a human opponent, and then produce ships with a speed that is again, not possible for a human. Which brings me to a second point. The strategies that worked before in the series are now worthless. The game now requires that you spend a lengthy amount of time doing everything. This would be realistic, if only the AI also spent that long. Oh, and one last problem. The cheerful rebellion. In one game I had my entire empire just a hair under maximum happiness and yet I constantly had planets trying to secede.

The Bottom Line
The game looks good and at first seems good, but cannot be played single-player. It works good in multiplayer, so stick to that.

Windows · by Nathan Pannbacker (34) · 2005

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